From someone using the moniker “TheProgressiveTruth” in response to a Washington Times article:
in 2001 Iran assisted us with bringing the Taliban down…Then that silly Axix of Evil Bull The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld way has been rejected. A majority of Americans support this new outreach despite what this Wash Times pols says…We know this outlet is an organ of the R pary and conservative movement. Conservative ideas are discredited and are not taken seriously by serious people…My advice, again Shut up.
All typos are the sole propriety of the author.
Let’s take his first claim: “Iran assisted us with bringing the Taliban down.” Perhaps Mr. “ProgressiveTruth” should educate himself rather than assert some talking point he heard as fact.
Here are some salient points he should consider before he just throws such a misleading statement out there. From the article:
Current and former U.S. troops and officials confirm Iranians were present with the Northern Alliance as U.S. forces organized the rebels in 2001. They say U.S. forces had no interaction with the Iranians.
One, an Army Special Forces officer, says Iranians in the Northern Alliance stronghold of Mazar-e-Sharif were sabotaging U.S. efforts by competing for the loyalty of local warlords.
There’s a lot to consider in the article (and many other articles. It only takes a few moments to get the full picture of Iranian involvement) before anyone with half a brain would just make some simple minded claim.
Let’s move on to his second claim: “Then that silly Axix of Evil Bull The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld way has been rejected.”
Rejected. So let me get this straight. The North Korean government and the Iranian government aren’t “evil”? How would Mr. “ProgressiveTruth” describe them? “Axis of Misguided?” You see, Mr. “ProgressiveTruth” doesn’t like strong language. Unless, of course, it’s directed toward “conservative knuckleheads” “numbskulls” and “liars”(as he so eloquently describes his opposition). That’s OK. Just don’t call evil what it is – evil. That really gets his dander up.
Moving on to claim three: “A majority of Americans support this new outreach despite what this Wash Times pols says…We know this outlet is an organ of the R pary and conservative movement.”
Read the poll questions you goose. Almost every time one’s opinion is asked about the “new outreach” it is couched in language about diplomacy AND sanction. But hey, there are a lot of Americans who think diplomacy will work because they don’t know it’s been tried – over and over. Sanctions don’t work either. Guess what? We tried that too. But you know this goes with the general belief that the “Axis of Evil” declaration just came out of thin air. It’s mean to say that. Gosh darn it. And the Washington Times is an “organ of the R par[t]y and the conservative movement?” Yeah man. You guys have the NY Times, the LA Times, CNN, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, MediaMatters, MoveOn, HuffPo, Kos, blah, blah, blah. I mean, how dare there be any disagreement?
This is tiresome, but let’s go to claim four: “Conservative ideas are discredited and are not taken seriously by serious people”
Really? Is Victor Davis Hanson not “serious”? Thomas Sowell? Was Ronald Reagan not serious? Even Christopher Hitchens, reknown for being a liberal, is conservative in his beliefs in regard to Middle East relations. Mr. “ProgressiveTruth” can’t be serious.
But wait, we now finally reach his final conclusion – his solution to his problem with all things conservative:
“My advice, again Shut up.” And again, in further commentary he repeats, “go hide out out in you(sic) bunker and shut the heck up!”
I’m sorry, but that’s not going to happen. Since when did dissent, the highest form of patriotism, become unpatriotic? There is little truth and nary a scintilla of progressivism in what you have said, Mr. “ProgressiveTruth”.
All this from the same “progressives” who complain bitterly about any diplomacy with Saudi Arabia. What? They’re evil, but Iran isn’t?
I don’t know about you, but progressivism, in my world, indicates newer and better ways to do things. Not rehashing old failed ideas with some crazy notion that they’ll work this time.
But hey, I must not be one of the “serious” people.